Sony please stop producing IPS garbage!!!

[Guy_88]

Sony along with other big named brands are chucking out IPS panels which are complete grabage!!! they have terrible contrast and peak brightness levels! they suffer from very bad bleeding/torch light! also. VA panels are by far the superior and  are hands down the best panels that aren’t oled. VA panels offer much higher contrast, brightness levels and have much less bleeding issues. Just look at this IPS samsung screen I bought it was classed as an ADS panel which is still IPS based, I never knew this at the time but it has been returned for the VA MU6500 samsung. People need to boycott these pathetic cheap panels! How can you label an IPS TV with HDR, when its so bad at contrast and brightness levels! IPS panels offer bad hdr viewing!. Then you’ve got companies certifying these TVs with HDR certified lables which is a complete joke, they don’t even meet the standards fot HDR.

Big companys are still charging us full price for these bad screens and they will continue to produce garbage like this aslong as they can get away with it!. LG are the kings of IPS right now which is a joke! yet people buy in to them without doing any research, same goes for samsung. Look on displayspecifications.com and you’ll see how many tvs out there that are IPS, its unbelievable, yet we’re getting charged £600,£700,£800+ for this garbage all because big companies want to cheap out even more to provide us garbage so they can make more profit, it’s ridiculous. bring back VA panels as standard, F**K IPS!!

[huconce]

Hi @Guy_88

Sony does not produces panels for TV's... IPS is mainly LG, and VA is mainly Samsung...

I say mainly because there are other brand that make LCD panels, like Au Optronics and Sharp..

BUT Sony does use IPS panels (XF85), and Yes the contrast is lower then VA but it got better viewing angles, and the IPS panels that Sony uses, but the pixel substructure is diferente from it's competitors, that's One of the reasons why Sony TV's with IPS are better than LG TV's IPS for example.

Anyway I have a 49X8005c it has light bleed because is Direct LED, if it has Edge-LED or FLAD the problem was not so severe, but lower range TV's have some compromise.

And what comes to HDR there are TV's htat can ''understand'' HDR and only show a bit more colour, but only the higher range can show HDR with higher peak brightness and WCG.

Dont hate on IPS panels, there are pro's and con's to everything... OLED You have great contrast, great viewing angles, BUT the peak brightness is not was great as good LCD, and you have the risk of burn-in..

Hope this helps You

Cheers

[Guy_88]

They have the control to use different panels so yes sony are producing garbage IPS TVs for us consumers to buy. LG, Samsung and Sony have all IPS, go on to displayspecifications and you’ll see most of sonys XE TVs are IPS! only the 55 inch XE are VA panels all the rest are IPS!. don’t hate on IPS!?? really??? IPS panels are the worst in every single way,  yeah they have better viewing angles but 9/10 most people sit in front of their TV. So your happy to pay 100’s on a TV that has far worse contrast and brightness, that suffers from torchlight which looks hurrendous! torchlight can also be seen in normal viewing its not like it disappears when watching a movie. VA TVs are even the same price as the inferior IPS panels,  IPS is mostly cons, VA is by far the superior!. 

IPS panels are just the cancer of the TV industry! there’s not one good thing about them apart from the viewing angle and they get the big premium price tag and people buy in to that s**t. There is posts upon posts on all different forums about people complaining about torchlighting they spend all they’re hard earned cash to get junk! and you think this is acceptable!??  whether you pay for a highend IPS panel it doesn’t matter they all suffer from torchlighting and poor contrast, paying more money isn’t going to help that lol!.

Sonys high end XE90 tvs all have VA, do you know why that is, its because VA panels are the best when it comes to non oled TVs. oled suffer from brightness issues lol really??? Rtings tests say different....

[huconce]

You are right, I know the majority of people are going to view in front of the TV..

And believe me not only IPS suffers from ''torchlight'' (light bleed)..

I'm not happy to pay 900€ for the 49x8005c, but I did pay 600€, it was a fair price for the TV, even being IPS..

I don't have the buget to buy the XF90 or even the XE90, and If I did have the money to buy the type of TV I went for the XE9305, because it's not just the type of panel that the TV uses, is the light system, and image processor.

I didnt say that OLED has brightness issues, OLED is Not Was bright that some LCD's, OLED can reach 800nits... The XF90 can reach 1000nits, the XE9305 can reach 1500nits, and the ZD9 can reach 1800nits..

[kurkosdr]

I don't believe that backlight bleeding and clouding issues are somehow an "operational characteristic" of IPS displays. Somehow IIyama can make 43-inch PC monitors without a hint of bleeding or clouding, and guess what, those monitors use IPS panels. This sounds more like yet another case of LG not being able to get their manufacturing process under control. Remember: this is the same company that gave us smartphones that bootloop and fridges that crap out just after the warranty.

That said, Sony should be ashamed of themselves for putting these panels in their TVs and selling them as premium Sony TVs. My cheap LG LM3400 TV has less clouding than the Sony TV shown in the photos has backlight bleed. If I had bought a high-dollar Sony TV and it was coming apart at the seams (literally, that's what causes the light bleed, the seams of the LCD assembly are coming apart) or was internally de-laminating (that's what causes random clouding), I would be mad.

Try to get your money back somehow, otherwise sell it and get a Samsung. And make sure you pay RTings a visit to make sure it's not an LG panel. 

[Win_88]

Hi

It's a well known fact across many manufacturers that backlight bleeding is a thing. It only makes sense when you consider how these panels light up to produce images on the screen. But there's a limit; If you can see heavy bleeding with your room being lit up with average lighting (not pitch dark), and the actual back light of the TV set to a reasonable level (not cranked up all the way), then you'd have a case for getting your unit replaced.

If you're complaining when the bleeding doesn't even show in the above conditions, you're probably not going to get what you want. Regardless of who made your screen or how much you paid for it.

Win_88