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new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

ladis6666 — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 18:12:50 GMT

Xperia M4 Aqua -, android 5.0 - new update promised to delete some of preinstalled annoying Google apps that take nearly 2 GB (!!!) of memory. But after update they are still installed. Is Sony cheating?

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

Uliwooly — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 18:30:11 GMT

@ladis6666

Where did you read that nonsense? Android allowing users to delete Google apps? that won't happen, please do post the source link

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

ladis6666 — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:00:07 GMT

When the update process started, there was text that some application will be deleted (they were listed - about 10-15 preinstalled apps) and can be installed again through Google Play. I cannot get the text back however - I made this update (it took me 2 hours) only because of this information that stupid google apps will be deleted. Therefore I am 100% sure that there was this information.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

ladis6666 — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:01:34 GMT

to be more clear - it said that new Android update will be installed without these apps. Not that user can delete them - they simply will not be installed in this update.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

Uliwooly — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:12:38 GMT

@ladis6666

You clearly misread, what it said was that since its a major update, your apps will be deleted, not that you are allowed to delete preloaded GOOGLE APPS, you can't delete them unless you root the device, again, Android belongs to Google, which one of their requirements to use Android is to preload their apps.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

Uliwooly — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:16:14 GMT

@ladis6666

You can google around

https://www.theinformation.com/Google-s-Confidential-Android-Contracts-Show-Rising-Requirements

http://www.androidcentral.com/your-new-phone-will-have-less-google-bloatware-and-thats-awesome

I've been flashing and upgrading a Z3 and a Z and a T2 the past few days, I haven't seen such message.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

ladis6666 — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:17:58 GMT

Sorry but I didnt misread.

And once again - it didnt say that you will be ALLOWED to delete BUT that this update brings you some new features and bla bla bla and then there was said that new update will be INSTALLED without some predinstalled apps. Me and my friend were looking at that and - once again - only because of this information I have started this update. It was official update from Sony PC companion. I am 100% sure mate.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

Uliwooly — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:26:12 GMT

@ladis6666'

Perhaps what you read were some Sony and third party preloaded apps, but Google apps will come with Android, its required by Google. Some apps could've been facebook, an antivirus, and other regional apps

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

ladis6666 — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:30:08 GMT

of course I know about Google and Android - but I am really sure. All of "missing apps" were listed. One of them was Talkback and Sketch. Only these two I remember. But they were about 15 of them.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

Uliwooly — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:35:24 GMT

@ladis6666

talk back its a service you have to download, sketch its a Sony app, preloaded apps vary per region

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

ladis6666 — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:46:27 GMT

check this:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/14/new-firmware-rolling-for-xperia-m4-aqua-26-1-a-2-167-and-m4-aqua-dual-26-1-b-2-147/

I installed this update (it comes automaticaly with PC companion) and believe me when the update started there was written the same as it is in the link above - some Google apps will not be installed to safe you a space and you can install them later from Google play.... News Stand, Google+ and some other.

Interesting.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

Uliwooly — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:47:58 GMT

@ladis6666

Not all of those are Google apps nor google core apps, did you checked the other two links I posted? it has this info

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

_alexdon_ — Sat, 14 Nov 2015 21:21:42 GMT

To free up memory for you we’ve removed some preinstalled applications and corresponding data&colon; Books, CloudPrint, FaceLock, GoogleTTS, Keep, Newsstand, NewsWeather, PlayGames, PlusOne and talkback. However, they will remain if you have updated them at least once. Note that all apps, except FaceLock, can be downloaded again from the Google™ Play Store (where available).

Did you read the highlighted part? And are any of those mentioned removed? There is also the part that uli mentioned about some apps that will be region specific.

Also, please try to be respectful with those that are trying to help.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

zyxxyz — Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:04:38 GMT

I do not understand why are you picking on the visitor that has a problem.

You are not helpful and you do not want to get into the problem.

As what goes to solving the problem: if you had these programs updated (as like autoupdate) then the apps stayed.

The solution: backup the device and do factory reset.

However, for some reasons unknown, factory reset does not free as much space as does update - and yet, it does free some hundreds of MB-s space.

This update works like this only with 8 GB device (obviously - because this device lacks enough device storage memory).

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

zyxxyz — Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:05:12 GMT

More information:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/20/sony-updates-the-xperia-m4-aqua-to-remove-some-pre-installed-apps-on-the-phones-8gb-storage/

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

ladis6666 — Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:32:00 GMT

Yes, I didn't see that text about updated applications. Thank you guys. Now Backup and Factory reset.

Re: new update promised to delete Google apps - but it didnt.

Uliwooly — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 02:23:51 GMT

@ladis6666

Anytime